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Tales of the Abyss: Degenki Maou Scans: Episode 15 - Aczeriuth 
13th-May-2007 02:07 am
Reborn - Yamamoto CHIBITA
Thank you, all of you who kept me company and had me laughing throughout scanning/cleaning up/translating. ♥

Well- what else can I say about this installment, except that it's Aczelius (Aczeriuth, to be true to the localisation) at last, and man: this was worth the wait. It's payoff time in spades. Am officially spoilt rotten by Asch, of all people (he has so many good scenes in this installment), which is such a joke, considering the love/hate relationship I have with him.

Very Image-Heavy

Before the ground falls away beneath your feet:

Luke's standing at the passage ring, and Van has triggered the "Foolish Replica Luke" code word that unleashes Luke's choushindou and spells the end of Aczelius.

Don't Miss Dancing Doushi and His Amazing Cheegle!
Ion and His Oracle Knights, coming Soon to a Coliseum Near You!

It really looked to me as if Ion was engaged in a particularly vigorous breakdancing session with Mieu.

Crack aside, Ion knew what was up, and yelled a warning too late for Luke, "Luke! Don't go there! It's -"

Couldn't help but think of glorious here:

Silly little boy. All trust is foolish.

Suddenly, Sensei's Sinister.

And then suddenly a DIM BULB BRIGHTENS, and Luke realises ... we aren't in Kimlasca anymore, Mieu...

Oh, Sensei. You look so... so... eeeeeevil.

Asch is... greatly displeased.
WELL SO WOULD I BE were I him...

Van realises Tear is there, and says, "Tear... Why are you here?"

Tear says, essentially, that her fears about Van have been realised. She says the people of Aczelius are doomed.

Van: I like being evil. It makes me... happy.
Okay, okay. Too much Spider-man 3.

Crack aside, Van addresses her by her full name, Mestearica, and says that she hasn't yet realised that this world is foolish, awful, etc.

The Return of the Replica: This year's #1 Horror Flick.

But the poor boy. This is a heartbreaking panel. It's when he finally realises that Van has betrayed him. Luke's thinking back on Van telling him that he was going to be a hero, and himself saying, "I want to be with Van!"

Luke: "This... I did this?!"

When I played this in the game my heart broke for Luke. It was the hardest part in the entire game, even though I had to do absolutely nothing.
But maybe it was that, that this event was utterly unchangeable.

Though, heh. When I first set eyes on this part, I thought of orphen and meimi, especially. ;)
Luke, prepare yourself for Asch's Very Special Brand of TOUGH LOVE.


Which basically can be summed up by the motto SCREW UP AND I'LL MAKE YOU SUFFER FOR IT.

And Asch abuses himself. When I saw it, my heart wrenched and I was ohpoorLuke! *cuddles Luke protectively*

Admittedly Luke asked for it, but I am D: ASCH GET YOUR HANDS OFF YOUR REPLICA. If you don't know how to treat him right, AT LEAST GUY WILL.

This part also makes me think of harajukufuuri, because you were once so D: at Luke that you wanted to put him in the first Asch-Luke fight and let him take it, and I saw this and thought you kind of got your wish. xD

Actual translation: Asch is furious at Luke's part in this, and punches him, saying that he's a deteriorating replica:

To which Luke asks, "What's a replica?" - in all innocence.

And as you can see, it breaks Asch's brain:

Asch doesn't go and explain it directly, though. "Don't make me laugh," he says, beyond fury now,
"Let me tell you this, Luke Obocchan" (Young Master Luke - in the manga, he uses this term sarcastically, on Luke)

Though I would completely believe in this alternative scenario. ♥
(warning: crack, and also Asch/Luke implications)

And Asch is given the unenviable task of explaining

Where Do Baby Replicas Come From?

Asch says, "Why do you think you and I have the same face?"

Jade, "This is -" His suspicions about Luke being Asch's replica are true.

You can see Asch struggling not to say, "SENSEI FLIES IN WITH THEM on a GREAT BIG EAGLE."

Asch: "Seven years ago, I was kidnapped by Van. I came from a noble family in Batical. I was the son of a Duke.
My father's name was Fabre."

Finally, he asks Luke what he thinks.

Asch: "You are my look-alike... my copy."
Tear: "STOP IT, ASCH!"

Asch: "You are my deteriorating replica!"

Sensei, I'M FLYING!

I suppose this would make Van/Asch fans happy.

But Asch isn't that easy:

Asch: "Van?! Release me!! Damn it!!"

The look in Tear's eyes says more than any words ever could.

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13th-May-2007 04:03 am (UTC)
XD I thought you might be pleased. *grin*

Van personally makes me twitch with murderous rage a lot, but I thought these scans of him were particularly impressive and that you might be interested in taking a look at them. *laughter*
12th-May-2007 06:26 pm (UTC)
LJ needs a little broken ♥ to use in posts. T.T

I feel so bad for Luke! *cuddles him!*

YAY FOR LUKE/TEAR THOUGH! xDD I am probably the only one who is seeing it between all the massive Asch/Luke. *g*

I'm kind of happy you scanned it. ;)
13th-May-2007 04:06 am (UTC)
I know! Sob. I've wished for that myself! But so far all I know is it will break your heart</i>. I actually took a long time getting to Aczelius because I was THE PAIN THE PAIN. But only if you do Aczelius can you get ARAMIS WELL (Guy/Luke love!) and REM TOWER (Asch/Luke love!) and Eldrant (KICKING ASCH AND VAN'S ASSES - oooops, my true colours just revealed themselves).

... Luke/Tear? *takes another look* The part where she's all STOP IT, ASCH! and being protective of Luke?

Hee. ♥ I'm glad! That makes it all worthwhile. ♥
12th-May-2007 06:42 pm (UTC)
First off, thank you so much for scanning this~ <3 *hugs you tight*
And, yes, I deleted my comment because I was stupidly lost in what I was typing and forgot to thank! XD;

So, wait! Asch spills the beans on the whole replica thing to Luke during this??? Wow. :O
Now that's double harsh! I mean, I remember watching this scene, and it IS really intense, and feeling so sorry for poor little Luke during this. My heart went out to him. D:
But to not only realize you were betrayed by your trusted teacher/friend and destroyed a town and thousands of people with it...but to THEN find out you are a replica?
The poor thing!

I am a sucker for angst and I do actually like this little twist, but a part of me doesn't agree with it because it just makes Asch look worse. People already have so much trouble understanding Asch and I hope this doesn't generate more hate. Even though...I can still understand why Asch did it and were I him, I know I would do the same. D:

I think...that Asch could, if he REALLY wanted to, return home and explain who he really was and have people believe Luke is a mere replica. But I also think that Asch refuses to do this because he has SOME faith that Luke can handle things at home while he takes care of Van. I think at this scene, Asch isn't just infuriated with Luke for being stupid, but because he feels his faith was misplaced.
13th-May-2007 04:23 am (UTC)
*hugs you tight too!* *beams* You're most welcome, and I'm glad you liked this! I first set eyes on this in Kyoto, so when I opened the page to a WHOLE WORLD OF ASCH I grinned and thought of you. ;) I always keep an eye out for Asch-anything because I know how much you like him. ;)

*snug!* Don't worry about it! *griiin* Thanks is lovely and wonderful, but sometimes the JOY is thanks enough :D

YES! OMG ASCH. *KICKS* I think he did this in the English version too, the poor baby, or was that when they first met in Yulia City? My heart went out to him too, and the anticipation of Aczelius pain was why it took me so long to get there in the game.

And yes. *cries* *heart breaks for poor Luke*

but a part of me doesn't agree with it because it just makes Asch look worse.
... ♥ Can I love you a lot for that? ♥ The way Asch reacted to Aczelius was a key reason why I hated him so much when the Japanese game came out. I didn't start to thaw until the English game. I think you said once that the English voice actor brings out the real Asch? (I'm gonna go hunt for that comment after this) And it's true, or at least - the English voice actor brings out an Asch I could love. I'm not sure if it's a cultural thing, because I'm relatively westernised in terms of preferences, and my comparatively J!culture friends loved Asch in the Japanese game, so he's gotta be doing something right?

Oddly enough, I would be the last person to put myself in the Asch fan camp (although close friends tell me it is all DENIAL), I liked this installment very much. One of the interpretations I've seen for Asch's reaction is that the core of his anger was anger at himself, for not being able to stop the fall of Aczelius and the death of all those people. I don't really get that feeling from Asch myself, but it's a plausible explanation.

My own explanation is simply Asch going D: YOU STUPID IDIOT you killed ALL THESE PEOPLE are you STUPID OR WHAT?!

XD I understand Asch (or at least I think I do) - but I am evil and unforgiving and still think it's no excuse for him to hurt Luke. When I saw this scene I was D: BRILLIANT, ASCH. Aczelius just FELL, and there you are bitching out Luke. That is going to help the situation, HOW?! I'd always thought that Asch could've handled the situation so much better, but then again he did what he did because he thought Luke was smart enough to realise he was a replica and Aczelius kind of proved that Luke wasn't as smart as Asch thought he was. I agree completely with what you said: Asch was furious because he felt his faith was misplaced. In the YOU IDIOT I trusted that you could handle yourself but NOOOO way.

Asch DEFINITELY could go home and everything would have been fine. Mommy and Daddy Fabre were so happy to have their original Luke back, Natalia and Ingobert were perfectly all right with the replica-original thing and having two of them running around: in fact, it even makes political sense to do it, because Natalia promised on Kimlasca's behalf that the replicas would find a home, and accepting both Asch and Luke into Kimlascan society would set a great precedent for that. But NOOOO. I think the biggest obstacle to Asch's happiness is Asch himself.
12th-May-2007 06:42 pm (UTC)
*cringes* One of my reasons for hesitating to play the game again is having to go through THIS scene again ._.

I like the way the manga does it, though. More trauma and drama, yay!

Poor Luke, though... And Van. Looks. So. Damn. SCARY. He's one of the few RPG villains that scares the crap out of me XD

Thanks for these scans!

Wait... so Asch got taken away? Hmmm... the manga's doing quite a few things differently. I have a feeling that they might just end it at Absorption Gate >.>
13th-May-2007 04:28 am (UTC)
I feel your pain! This was difficult enough the first time, the second time is just unnecessary anguish! I wish we'd been given the opportunity to skip cutscenes: it'd save a lot of time. The main reason for my not wanting to play the game is basically: TIME. XD I burned 108 hours on the first playthrough and am extremely reluctant to invest any more. ;)

XDDD!! I agree! MORE TRAUMA AND DRAMA indeed. ♥ WORD. ♥

VAN. SINISTER SENSEI ENTER STAGE RIGHT. I think it's a brilliant contrast to the Van that Luke loved so very much.

Your'e most welcome! Glad you liked!

Asch got taken away in the English game too, though? Van swooped down and took him away on a giant eagle.

End it at Absorption Gate? *grin* And miss out on all those fan-dollars they'd get otherwise? NAAAH, I think we're safe. ;) We'll get our ending (and no answer). ;)
12th-May-2007 06:46 pm (UTC)
13th-May-2007 04:29 am (UTC)
12th-May-2007 08:41 pm (UTC)
When I played this in the game my heart broke for Luke. It was the hardest part in the entire game, even though I had to do absolutely nothing.
But maybe it was that, that this event was utterly unchangeable.

I TELL U WUT. Even though I had to admit that had I been there, with Luke chanting, "It's not my fault," over and over, I probably would have slapped him, but I still inside!cried when even Guy left him alone. And then I inside!cried again when Guy went back to him ♥

HOMG horrified faces with shaded, non-shiny eyes feed my ravenous angst demon.

Thank you so much for scanning, translating and posting these! It must have been so much work! Every time you do, I kick myself and say, "Hurry up and catch up on buying them you dreck!" and also, "Hurry up and learn Japanese, you kuzu!"
13th-May-2007 04:38 am (UTC)
OK. The It's not my fault kind of made me go D: too, but because he is Luke and seven years old and very very stupid and young and silly, and also because I unreservedly and unfairly love him most, I understood him. What I couldn't accept so easily was the way Asch reacted, however justified it was. I was Asch. ... dude. You're seventeen. Handle the situation, dammit. Slapping yourself around isn't gonna solve anything. If you're smarter, ACT like you're smarter. I guess I just expected more from Asch.

omg. ♥ Guy/Luke to me is the true love story of Tales of the Abyss: that Guy, someone with so much against Luke, who had every reason to hate him, could still change so much because Luke made Guy change his mind. LOVE.

... a lot of Abyss fans I know have ravening angst demons. D: WHAT IS WITH YOU GUYS. XD I have one myself, but it is not permitted out unless said angst is suitably followed by reconciliation, FLUFF, or at the very least, some significance by way of ACTUAL PLOT.

*grin!* You're most welcome! It is actually a lot of work, and I suspect the reason that I'm not as creative in the Abyss fandom as I normally am in the other series I get into is precisely because I'm spending so much time scanning. D8 But I really want to share the love, so I guess - LOVE MEANS SACRIFICE? XDDD

XDDDD I have to be honest, I picked up Japanese to read Abyss fanfiction. *laughing* But DAMN It's hard work. So I practise with manga and doujin, it'll be a while before I'm fanfiction-level. ;)
13th-May-2007 05:15 am (UTC)
Ahaha, I caved. (God that took forever on dialup but SO SO WORTH IT! ♥)

That was awesome. Luke's expressions, ;__; Though he seemed to realize that he did it, as opposed to the game where he was all OMG NOT MEEEE... interesting. (Guy needs to run over and carry him to Tear's little barrier teleport. >_>)

I love all the expressions, really. The artist of this manga is amazing. ♥

Ahaha, oh Asch. I had a love/hate with him too, when I played xD And then pic_murasaki's art got me liking Asch/Guy and fairness and I started roleplaying Asch/Natalia... and then I started replaying the game. My opinion changed so much, ^^; Actually to be honest I absolutely hated him until just before the Tower of Rem.

(Erk, rambling.) I have to say one thing, though - Luke only got a punch. This is a vast improvement from the drama CD - I'm pretty sure I remember Asch using his Mystic Artes on the poor kid in that one, >___>; Luke got off easy. ...Then again there's the mental trauma. Poor little replica, we love you anyway! ♥ And so does Guy!

Thank you so much for scanning and sharing it, ^_^ It was awesome to see!
13th-May-2007 06:02 am (UTC)
...Damn, this chapter looks incredible. Was this from the June issue of Dengeki Maoh by any chance? Anyway, thanks so much for putting these up!! ^_^

Lol you know, at least in the game, everything that "tramautized" Luke happened in somewhat gradual steps, but apparently in the manga, the writer/artist went, "...STEPS?!?! PFFT, LET'S JUST GIVE EVERYTHING TO LUKE AT ONCE!!" D: Man, poor Luke ;_;

Oh man, I simply can't wait for Luke's haircut!! =D I was literally like, "YOU GO, LUKE!!! SHOW THOSE S.O.B.S. WHAT YOU'RE MADE OF!" when I passed that scene in the game. XD
13th-May-2007 07:12 am (UTC)
yes... this part totally made me feel sorry for Luke TT;; he trusted Van so whole-heartedly... and I friggen knew Van was lying at Batical and so through the whole thing i'm yelling at my tv " DONT DO IT LUKE!! IDIOT HE'S LYING! RARG LISTEEEEEN" mom: " ......... Diana? ..... " "HES LYING TO LUKE MOM AND *tells whole story*" " ...... ok... *walks away" but yea.. when it happened i'm just like " TTTT " and then everyone is so mean after... and arg DX *dies* so sad... poor poor Luke.. AND OMG DX ASCH!! NO HITTING HIM!! OMG.... poor Luke TT:;; gah... no...
13th-May-2007 01:01 pm (UTC) - *FULL OF HEARTS FOR LUKE*
Ah... didn't he say all that in Yulia City actually? XD;;;
I wonder if that means they'll cut that scene out and we'll never know if Asch carried unconscious Luke to Tear's room orz;;;;

Luke's expressions are so... T^T *wants to hug him*
He looks like he's gonna cry, quote, unquote Guy XD
13th-May-2007 05:11 pm (UTC) - yay asch (spirit) top pic ;___;
Darn, was I ever so annoyed with Luke? I suppose it is All Hail Namco because all I want to do is give him some woobie now. The manga is even worse than the game in breaking it to Luke this way. ;____; And Asch's expressions in the manga are better in a masochist kind of way: the pain, arrogance, hatred and understanding all mixed in one.

...That said, that kneeling scene, though. Would (d)evolve right into sex if 1) it weren't canon and 2) despite Azkeriuth collapsing in on them. :D;;;
13th-May-2007 08:36 pm (UTC)
I've never seen so much flowy hair in my life. XDD Now if only Van had his hair down... Everyone's so chocked and angry, you just have to feel sorry for the poor Luke. Thanks for sharing, and I hope you don't mind my friending you. *__*;;
14th-May-2007 12:49 am (UTC)
Ah, I was wondering whether the manga had gotten up to Akzeriuth yet...this answered my question. *sigh* I feel so bad for Luke at this part. Sure, he had been acting like a jerk up until then, but he really had no idea what he was in for...Van is just SO evil.

(Major kudos to you for going to the trouble of scanning all this and putting it up!)
2nd-Jun-2007 11:49 pm (UTC)
It's kind of late as all get out, but I wanted to thank you for these scans. Because of them, I fell in love with the manga and went out to buy volume 1, 2, and the anthology by the same artist. :) They'll get here in a week or two, but they'll eventually get here! I imagine these current scans are in volume 3 or something, but I'll get that when it's released too!

So, thank you for sharing!
3rd-Mar-2008 07:34 pm (UTC)
Ion is so pretty in the manga. It's abnormal. O:

Thanks for the page summaries. They were helpful. Poor Luke, though. You have to feel bad for him.

THE CAKE-- I mean, his life, is a lie. D:

Where do these scans come from, by the way? I suppose they can only be purchased in Japanese.
3rd-Mar-2008 07:35 pm (UTC)
Errr, the manga can only be purchased in Japanese. That's what I meant. xD;;

Sorry for the word omission. Bah.
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